Alvin and the Chipmunks Squirells Funny
This is a topic I've been wondering about for a while. The Looney Tunes universe(s) and Mickey Mouse universe(s) seem to have two types of animals. Anthromorphic ones (Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse) and more realistic "regular" animals (Pluto, Taz). However, the Alvin and the Chipmunks universe(s) seem(s) to be more confused in their apporach(es).
In the 2007 film,Alvin and the Chipmunks, Dave states that squirrels (and later chipmunks) can't talk, indicating that until this point, his life has been pretty akin to a regular person in our universe. He later asks the Chipmunks if all animals can talk. Simon states he believes that fish have "some sort of strange sign-language thing", indicating that most animals can talk in this universe.
However, if most animals can talk in this universe, why are the Chipmunks treated like a rare occurence? Both Dave and Ian are shown to be rather surprised when the Chipmunks are shown to be speaking/singing. Are these the first humans they've interacted with? Haven't they ever come across anyone in the forest? Surely they'd have to, right? Or else how would they know the lyrics to all the songs they've been singing there?
The end of the film confuses this point. Ian is shown with three regular squirrels, trying to make them sing. They both look and act like actual squirrels, therefore not singing. While this serves as a funny little end to the film and I absolutely adore this scene, it doesn't really add up with what wa said earlier in the film. Why can't these squirrels talk? Why are they acting like actual squirrels while the Chipmunks don't act like regular squirrels?
In the 2009 film, Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel, Toby's former pet cat is portrayed as a regular animal. But a later scene shows Digger the Gopher? I'm not quite sure what he was doing there, but he's clearly anthromphic just like the Chipmunks? And the movie also introduces the Chipettes, female anthromorphic chipmunks? So clearly there are at least seven anthromorphic animals in this universe. One could say that maybe chipmunks are a special case, but this is disproved by Digger's appearance.
In the 2011 film,Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked, Zoe is shown to also be confused by the existence of talking chipmunks. She first arrived on the island before Alvin and the Chipmunks became known as a band, so this indicates that talking animals had never been heard of before then.
The 2015 series, ALVINNN!!! and the Chipmunks, also provides some confusing moments. The Chipmunks are portrayed as relatively human-looking (with the exception of the tails and stripe going down their forehead). However, all the other animals seem to be portrayed pretty realisticly.
The episode, "Good Luck Mr. Whiskers", show Jeanette as a cat-whisperer, having the ability to talk to cats. None of the other Chipmunks seem to posess the ability to understand cats, so this clearly doesn't have anything to do with them both being animals. But why...why is it that Mrs. Croner's cats can't talk while the Chipmunks can? Strange.
The episode, "Who's The Animal", is perhaps the most confusing episode out of all of them. Alvin, wearing a Tasmanian Devil costume, visits the zoo and is mistaken for an actual Tasmanian Devil. The Tasmanian Devils in this series are actually portrayed pretty realisticly. They act just like real animals. But how come the Chipmunks don't? Even if Alvin wasn't dressed as a Tasmanian Devil, couldn't the same confusion still be caused? He might be mixed up with one of the zoo's chipmunks. Or would the zoo's chipmunks look completely different than the Chipmunks and the Chipettes? Would they have the same human-like qualities? Or would they be more realisitic, as par with the live-action movies? Something to think about.
(edited by Heeha)
First of all, be careful comparing cross-generation. They are different in many ways.
I'm going to stop here: "Simon states he believes that fish have 'some sort of strange sign-language thing', indicating that most animals can talk in this universe."
Simon doesn't state this as fact, nor are two instances enough to claim "most animals can talk." Your statement above is very weak and is meant to support most of what's stated afterwards, which it can't do.
Now, this might come as a joke, but what if The Chipmunks learned English? Talking is communication, just because one doesn't understand the communication doesn't mean no talking took place. All animals communicate in some fashion (as with different nations) and you can learn what they are saying by studying the language, hence my initial thought.
We also have to keep in mind that we are in a fictional world and scripts are created to entertain. It's also not unreasonable to reference other works/franchises. Digger makes a cameo, and in my opinion, doesn't mean much here.
"The Chipmunks are portrayed as relatively human-looking (with the exception of the tails and stripe going down their forehead). However, all the other animals seem to be portrayed pretty realisticly."
You could probably take this a number of ways, but the most reasonable is that they look human-like (though they have many traits that are animal) to emphasize their anthropomorphic characteristic of communication. I've listened to a number of people that complained that the CGI films were creepy because the chipmunks were so realistic and communicating in a way we understand (and realistic chipmunks can't talk). Plus, human-like chipmunks don't exist hence an unreal appearance. Other animals likely look as they do in nature to emphasize that they don't have human characteristics.
"The episode, Good Luck Mr. Whiskers, show Jeanette as a cat-whisperer, having the ability to talk to cats. None of the other Chipmunks seem to posess the ability to understand cats, so this clearly doesn't have anything to do with them both being animals. But why...why is it that Mrs. Croner's cats can't talk while the Chipmunks can?"
Again, this can go to entertainment purposes. It can also be a reference to the fact that some people claim that they are dog-whispers and such.
"Or would the zoo's chipmunks look completely different than the Chipmunks and the Chipettes? Would they have the same human-like qualities? Or would they be more realisitic, as par with the live-action movies?"
This is the real piece to talk about. I believe it could go either way. My first thought here was to the 80s episode Alvin... and the Chipmunk. Alvin meets a wild chipmunk (who looks very similar to him), but I don't believe he could speak in a way we would understand. Then you have Wings Over Siesta Grande with the Twee-Twee Tribe. They didn't know English, but were able to sing "Witch Doctor." In the 80s series, the chipmunks are waist high on Dave indicating more human than animal, as for the latter in the new series (no human early teen is 12 inches tall). Going back to my very first sentence, we have to be careful comparing across generations as this is/will likely be different.
(edited by DEmersonJMFM)
Heeha wrote: The 2015 series, ALVINNN!!! and the Chipmunks, also provides some confusing moments. The Chipmunks are portrayed as relatively human-looking (with the exception of the tails and stripe going down their forehead). However, all the other animals seem to be portrayed pretty realisticly.
The episode, "Good Luck Mr. Whiskers", show Jeanette as a cat-whisperer, having the ability to talk to cats. None of the other Chipmunks seem to posess the ability to understand cats, so this clearly doesn't have anything to do with them both being animals. But why...why is it that Mrs. Croner's cats can't talk while the Chipmunks can? Strange.
The episode, "Who's The Animal", is perhaps the most confusing episode out of all of them. Alvin, wearing a Tasmanian Devil costume, visits the zoo and is mistaken for an actual Tasmanian Devil. The Tasmanian Devils in this series are actually portrayed pretty realisticly. They act just like real animals. But how come the Chipmunks don't? Even if Alvin wasn't dressed as a Tasmanian Devil, couldn't the same confusion still be caused? He might be mixed up with one of the zoo's chipmunks. Or would the zoo's chipmunks look completely different than the Chipmunks and the Chipettes? Would they have the same human-like qualities? Or would they be more realisitic, as par with the live-action movies? Something to think about.
The cat-whisperer idea likely indicates that all of the chipmunks can communicate via pheromones among each other and with other animals. Alvin seems to understand the raven's threat, and that it's targeted at him, in the episode where Eleanor's competition cake is eaten. However, this brings up an important point in Who's The Animal, as it seems that 1) the mother Tasmanian devil is asomatic and 2) why can't Alvin understand or communicate via pheromones with her? In the new series, only Jeanette and Theodore consistently use pheromone communication with other animals. It would make sense, as they are both very shy, for them to pay attention to pheromones more than their siblings. It seems that every character has used it to an extent though, like Simon did with the Beatrice look-alike in Wacky Wednesday. We do have evidence in the 80s series that they were able to communicate other chipmunks via pheromones in Alvin and the Chipmunk, and Wings Over Siesta Grande. We see a milder form with other animals in the series, like they at least could have empathy with Cookie Chomper the third or in Thinking Cap Trap with Lily the tiny dog. Lily is a more complex case, as it seems that she expects Theodore not to follow through with the training, and sense how little confidence there is in the training regime.
(edited by Tan&Nerdy)
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